Placement order
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Vampire
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Placement order
Court granted care and placement order 9th decemeber 2025. I tried going back for a revoke January 26th. But due to lack of time and no threaphy work it eas refused. Sinxe them ive been fully engaging in self funded emdr psychothreaphy. Signed up for womens support group completed a da course on Allison's learning. Iro and social worker arent addressing my changes. My son has developmental delays so i do understand their concerns. I want to go back to court for a second revoke but im scared itll be refused again for lack of time. Even though ive made significant changes. This is terrifying me. I cant lose my little boy. I dont know what to do. If I leave it longer he could be placed with adopters. If I take it back soon it might be too soon after janaury. I cant get legal help until the adoption application has been sent it. I need some one to help fight my corner im at a dead end. I just want my son home
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Winter25
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Re: Placement order
Hi Vampire,
I am so incredibly sorry you are living with this level of fear. The panic you are feeling makes sense and I personally do understand what that feels like , because you are doing absolutely everything you can, but the system feels like it is moving faster than you are allowed to prove your changes.
I want you to take a deep breath. You are not at a dead end.
First, what you have achieved since January is phenomenal. Self-funding EMDR, joining a women's support group, and completing a Domestic Abuse course is real, heavy-lifting work. That is exactly the kind of commitment the Family Court expects to see.
I need you to reframe how you are looking at that January court date. A refusal so soon after the final order does not mean "never." To a Judge, it simply meant: "This is a great start, but not enough time has passed yet to prove it is embedded." That is a very different thing from a permanent no.
Here is how you use the law to protect your rights, build your evidence, and force Social Services to be honest about their timeline, without rushing into court blindly.
1. The Legal "Line in the Sand"
You are terrified of applying "too soon" and being rejected, but also terrified of waiting "too long" and losing him.
The absolute legal line in the sand is the day a child is officially placed (moves in) with prospective adopters. As long as he is still in foster care and hasn't been placed, you still have the legal right to apply for "Leave (permission) to Revoke the Placement Order."
2. The Golden Question: Where is the LA in the process?
Because of that legal line in the sand, you cannot make strategic decisions based on panic. You must make them based on facts. Your immediate priority this week is to find out exactly where the Local Authority (LA) is in the matching process.
Once you know their timeline, you know whether you have a few weeks to build an incredibly strong case, or if you need to file an emergency application tomorrow.
3. Build "Court-Proof" Evidence
Certificates show willing, but Judges want to see clinical and practical proof that you can handle your son's specific needs. While you wait for the LA's timeline, gather these two things:
Ask your EMDR therapist for a short letter confirming your start date, your high level of engagement, the focus of your work (trauma and emotional stability), and your progress so far.
A "Protective Needs Plan": Because your son has developmental delays, you must show the Judge you aren't just fixing the past, but preparing for his future. Write down a clear plan of what you understand about his delays, what routines he needs, and what professional services you will actively engage with if he comes home.
4. The "Notice of Intention" Email
Do not just wait in silence. You need to politely put the social worker and the Independent Reviewing Officer (IRO) on notice that you are building a case. This creates a concrete paper trail of your progress that they cannot ignore in their meetings.
Send them this exact email:
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"Dear [Social Worker] and [IRO],
I am writing to update you on the significant and sustained changes I have made since the refusal on 26th January. I have been engaging consistently in self-funded EMDR psychotherapy, I have joined a women’s support group, and I have completed a domestic abuse course.
I understand the Local Authority's concerns, particularly regarding my son’s additional needs. My therapeutic work is heavily focused on strengthening my emotional stability and protective parenting capacity to ensure I can meet his needs safely and consistently.
As I continue this work, I urgently need you to confirm the following in writing:
1. Has a prospective adoptive match been identified for my son?
2. Has a matching panel occurred, or is one currently scheduled?
3. Are any introductions or a placement date currently planned?
Please place this update on my son's file. I look forward to your clarification on the timeline.
Yours sincerely,
[Your Name]"
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Do not file the court application today. Send that email first. Once they reply, you will know exactly how much time you have.
If your able to let me know these 4 questions next time your online
1 Do you already know if he is matched or if a panel has happened?
2 Is he definitely still in temporary foster care?
3 What did the Judge actually say when they refused the application in January (in a sentence or two)?
4 What level of contact are you currently having with him?
You have done the hardest part by starting the work. Now you just need to translate that work into a language the Family Court respects. Stay strong OK.
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For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
I am so incredibly sorry you are living with this level of fear. The panic you are feeling makes sense and I personally do understand what that feels like , because you are doing absolutely everything you can, but the system feels like it is moving faster than you are allowed to prove your changes.
I want you to take a deep breath. You are not at a dead end.
First, what you have achieved since January is phenomenal. Self-funding EMDR, joining a women's support group, and completing a Domestic Abuse course is real, heavy-lifting work. That is exactly the kind of commitment the Family Court expects to see.
I need you to reframe how you are looking at that January court date. A refusal so soon after the final order does not mean "never." To a Judge, it simply meant: "This is a great start, but not enough time has passed yet to prove it is embedded." That is a very different thing from a permanent no.
Here is how you use the law to protect your rights, build your evidence, and force Social Services to be honest about their timeline, without rushing into court blindly.
1. The Legal "Line in the Sand"
You are terrified of applying "too soon" and being rejected, but also terrified of waiting "too long" and losing him.
The absolute legal line in the sand is the day a child is officially placed (moves in) with prospective adopters. As long as he is still in foster care and hasn't been placed, you still have the legal right to apply for "Leave (permission) to Revoke the Placement Order."
2. The Golden Question: Where is the LA in the process?
Because of that legal line in the sand, you cannot make strategic decisions based on panic. You must make them based on facts. Your immediate priority this week is to find out exactly where the Local Authority (LA) is in the matching process.
Once you know their timeline, you know whether you have a few weeks to build an incredibly strong case, or if you need to file an emergency application tomorrow.
3. Build "Court-Proof" Evidence
Certificates show willing, but Judges want to see clinical and practical proof that you can handle your son's specific needs. While you wait for the LA's timeline, gather these two things:
Ask your EMDR therapist for a short letter confirming your start date, your high level of engagement, the focus of your work (trauma and emotional stability), and your progress so far.
A "Protective Needs Plan": Because your son has developmental delays, you must show the Judge you aren't just fixing the past, but preparing for his future. Write down a clear plan of what you understand about his delays, what routines he needs, and what professional services you will actively engage with if he comes home.
4. The "Notice of Intention" Email
Do not just wait in silence. You need to politely put the social worker and the Independent Reviewing Officer (IRO) on notice that you are building a case. This creates a concrete paper trail of your progress that they cannot ignore in their meetings.
Send them this exact email:
--------
"Dear [Social Worker] and [IRO],
I am writing to update you on the significant and sustained changes I have made since the refusal on 26th January. I have been engaging consistently in self-funded EMDR psychotherapy, I have joined a women’s support group, and I have completed a domestic abuse course.
I understand the Local Authority's concerns, particularly regarding my son’s additional needs. My therapeutic work is heavily focused on strengthening my emotional stability and protective parenting capacity to ensure I can meet his needs safely and consistently.
As I continue this work, I urgently need you to confirm the following in writing:
1. Has a prospective adoptive match been identified for my son?
2. Has a matching panel occurred, or is one currently scheduled?
3. Are any introductions or a placement date currently planned?
Please place this update on my son's file. I look forward to your clarification on the timeline.
Yours sincerely,
[Your Name]"
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Do not file the court application today. Send that email first. Once they reply, you will know exactly how much time you have.
If your able to let me know these 4 questions next time your online
1 Do you already know if he is matched or if a panel has happened?
2 Is he definitely still in temporary foster care?
3 What did the Judge actually say when they refused the application in January (in a sentence or two)?
4 What level of contact are you currently having with him?
You have done the hardest part by starting the work. Now you just need to translate that work into a language the Family Court respects. Stay strong OK.
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For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
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Vampire
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Re: Placement order
Hes currently still in foster care. I have email duty and sw. Iro is biased. Shes already made her mind up
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Winter25
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Re: Placement order
Hi Vampire,
The most important part of your reply is he is still in foster care. That means you are not too late as off today, and there is still time to act. I know that won’t take the fear away, but it does mean the position is not hopeless.
On the IRO, I hear you. A lot of parents feel the IRO has already formed a view. The safest thing now is not to argue with her about bias or get drawn into that fight. Keep all communication calm, brief and factual, and make sure your updates and evidence are put on your son’s file. You do not need her to agree with you straight away. You need the paper trail.
You said you’ve emailed duty and the social worker, which is good. If that email already asked whether a match has been identified, whether panel has happened or is booked, and whether introductions or a placement date are planned, then I would wait for the reply and see exactly what they say.
If your email was more of a general update, then send one short follow-up asking only for the timeline, for example:
Further to my earlier email, please can you confirm in writing whether a prospective adoptive match has been identified, whether matching panel has taken place or is scheduled, and whether any introductions or placement date are currently planned. I am asking so I can understand my son’s current care plan timescales.
While you wait for that reply, keep using the time well. The best next piece of evidence is usually a short letter from your EMDR therapist confirming when you started, your attendance and engagement, the focus of the work, and the progress so far. That will usually carry more weight than course certificates on their own.
So for now I would keep your focus very narrow:
get the timeline in writing
get a therapist letter
keep everything calm and factual
The most important part of your reply is he is still in foster care. That means you are not too late as off today, and there is still time to act. I know that won’t take the fear away, but it does mean the position is not hopeless.
On the IRO, I hear you. A lot of parents feel the IRO has already formed a view. The safest thing now is not to argue with her about bias or get drawn into that fight. Keep all communication calm, brief and factual, and make sure your updates and evidence are put on your son’s file. You do not need her to agree with you straight away. You need the paper trail.
You said you’ve emailed duty and the social worker, which is good. If that email already asked whether a match has been identified, whether panel has happened or is booked, and whether introductions or a placement date are planned, then I would wait for the reply and see exactly what they say.
If your email was more of a general update, then send one short follow-up asking only for the timeline, for example:
Further to my earlier email, please can you confirm in writing whether a prospective adoptive match has been identified, whether matching panel has taken place or is scheduled, and whether any introductions or placement date are currently planned. I am asking so I can understand my son’s current care plan timescales.
While you wait for that reply, keep using the time well. The best next piece of evidence is usually a short letter from your EMDR therapist confirming when you started, your attendance and engagement, the focus of the work, and the progress so far. That will usually carry more weight than course certificates on their own.
So for now I would keep your focus very narrow:
get the timeline in writing
get a therapist letter
keep everything calm and factual
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Vampire
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Re: Placement order
Ive sent my sw all the evidence thats needed.
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Winter25
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Re: Placement order
Hi Vampire,
That’s still a positive step, because it means your evidence is now on record and can’t be said not to exist.
The important thing to remember though is that sending evidence to the social worker and the court acting on it are two different things. The social worker can log it, consider it, and pass it on, but they can’t themselves undo the placement order. That’s why the timeline matters so much.
So at this point, the key question is not just “have they got my evidence?” but “where are they in the adoption process?”
If your earlier email already asked whether a match has been identified, whether panel has happened or is booked, and whether introductions or a placement date are planned, then the next step is to wait for that reply and see exactly what they say.
If you only sent the evidence without asking those questions, send one short follow-up asking for the current timeline in writing.
In the background, keep building the strongest evidence you can, especially anything from your therapist confirming your engagement, progress, and ongoing work. That way, if you do need to go back to court, you are in a better position.
So for now, I’d keep your focus on two things:
1 getting the timeline in writing
2 continuing to strengthen your evidence
======
For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
That’s still a positive step, because it means your evidence is now on record and can’t be said not to exist.
The important thing to remember though is that sending evidence to the social worker and the court acting on it are two different things. The social worker can log it, consider it, and pass it on, but they can’t themselves undo the placement order. That’s why the timeline matters so much.
So at this point, the key question is not just “have they got my evidence?” but “where are they in the adoption process?”
If your earlier email already asked whether a match has been identified, whether panel has happened or is booked, and whether introductions or a placement date are planned, then the next step is to wait for that reply and see exactly what they say.
If you only sent the evidence without asking those questions, send one short follow-up asking for the current timeline in writing.
In the background, keep building the strongest evidence you can, especially anything from your therapist confirming your engagement, progress, and ongoing work. That way, if you do need to go back to court, you are in a better position.
So for now, I’d keep your focus on two things:
1 getting the timeline in writing
2 continuing to strengthen your evidence
======
For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
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Vampire
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Re: Placement order
I sent the emails friday. I had family time with my son 9th march. He is definitely still in foster care. I wasnt told that I had to send them evidence of improvements.
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Winter25
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Re: Placement order
Hi Vampire,
So you said "I wasn't told that I had to send them evidence of improvements."
You are absolutely right, nobody told you. Because it is no longer their job to help you.
Once a Placement Order is granted, Social Services' only legal goal is to progress the adoption plan. They are not going to hand you an instruction manual on how to succeed against them in court. They are not going to tell you what evidence to gather. They will just quietly let the clock tick down. A lot of parents get caught out by this and lose their children simply because they were waiting to be told what to do.
Now that you understand how this is done, you need to make a massive mindset shift: You now need to be the manager of your own case. You have to take total control, push back, and force them to answer you.
Here is where I see you standing as off today.
You saw him on March 9th, and he is still in foster care. You have not missed your window.
Because you sent the emails on Friday, the social worker won't have looked at them over the weekend. Give them until Tuesday afternoon to reply.
If they just reply saying "Thanks for the evidence" but they do not answer your questions about the matching panel timeline, you do not let it drop. You email them straight back and say:
"Thank you. Further to my email, please can you confirm in writing: Has a prospective adoptive match been identified, is a matching panel scheduled, and are any introductions currently planned? I need to understand my son's current care plan timescales."
Do not wait for them to invite you to the table. You force your way to the table with a massive pile of clinical evidence.
Wait and see what they say by tomorrow afternoon.
======
For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
So you said "I wasn't told that I had to send them evidence of improvements."
You are absolutely right, nobody told you. Because it is no longer their job to help you.
Once a Placement Order is granted, Social Services' only legal goal is to progress the adoption plan. They are not going to hand you an instruction manual on how to succeed against them in court. They are not going to tell you what evidence to gather. They will just quietly let the clock tick down. A lot of parents get caught out by this and lose their children simply because they were waiting to be told what to do.
Now that you understand how this is done, you need to make a massive mindset shift: You now need to be the manager of your own case. You have to take total control, push back, and force them to answer you.
Here is where I see you standing as off today.
You saw him on March 9th, and he is still in foster care. You have not missed your window.
Because you sent the emails on Friday, the social worker won't have looked at them over the weekend. Give them until Tuesday afternoon to reply.
If they just reply saying "Thanks for the evidence" but they do not answer your questions about the matching panel timeline, you do not let it drop. You email them straight back and say:
"Thank you. Further to my email, please can you confirm in writing: Has a prospective adoptive match been identified, is a matching panel scheduled, and are any introductions currently planned? I need to understand my son's current care plan timescales."
Do not wait for them to invite you to the table. You force your way to the table with a massive pile of clinical evidence.
Wait and see what they say by tomorrow afternoon.
======
For full transparency, I am not an official adviser. I am a parent with lived experience of the family court system, offering strategic guidance. Always consult with a solicitor regarding ongoing court proceedings.
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Vampire
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Re: Placement order
Thank yor for your advise much appreciated
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Winter25
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Re: Placement order
You are very welcome
It may help if you post a bit more of the background when you feel able, because that’s what will shape the best next step now.
For example:
If your comfortable saying what happened
what were the court’s main concerns when the care/placement orders were made?
what did your solicitor or barrister say at the time about what needed to change?
were any family members assessed, or put forward to care for him?
what did the judge say when refusing the January application?
You don’t have to post anything you’re uncomfortable sharing, but the fuller picture usually makes it easier for people to give more useful guidance.
It may help if you post a bit more of the background when you feel able, because that’s what will shape the best next step now.
For example:
If your comfortable saying what happened
what were the court’s main concerns when the care/placement orders were made?
what did your solicitor or barrister say at the time about what needed to change?
were any family members assessed, or put forward to care for him?
what did the judge say when refusing the January application?
You don’t have to post anything you’re uncomfortable sharing, but the fuller picture usually makes it easier for people to give more useful guidance.
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