So perjury was commited in my case by s.s they did know as I received a copy of an assessment that was intentionally missed from the chronology that made it appear there had been no involvement from the service prior to my daughter been placed in a police rta hospitalised and arrested with her paternal dad. Local council removed evidence including step down plans risk assessment that was already on their system when I was making referrals . Followed complaints process , legal team won't allow my points of complaint in a context I had them and would only allow them if the severity was minimised , stage 1 offered a leaflet then QA response .. paternal side smoke screened services bearing in mind he had already had 3 kids removed with previous spouse and suspect neglect on youngest 2 high risk assessment was on their system. Can't smoke screen that oh he also commited a burglary whilst involvement from another s.worker stepped down and a report sent to education(missing evidence)and also missed from chronology. Stage 2 escalation offered £500 compensation I refused that offer due to severity of daughter's injuries, council then instead of sending to panel after stage 2 to the ombudsman who requested I spend out of my own pocket to take further, contacted social work England who regulate social workers and fit to practice. Considering a s.worker advised my daughter at 14 she is old enough to make a decision as to where. She would like to reside (coercion) as my daughter wasn't legally old enough and social worker should know that or they aren't fit to practice it's legislation and law .also against social worker who committed perjury and after a 12 month plus wait for a response no further action taken against them on plus side head of service had to leave manager under herself and 2 social workers. We pay council tax that contributes to social care to "protect kids" I recently got a video of a social worker openly admitting he would place a child at risk.
How the service can sit patronise and point finger at me after making 16 months of referrals n them deleting evidence to say I need to do this that and other and do nothing in regards to paternal side having contact is bonkers.
A second complaint has gone in as since been under la care she left care no GCSE grades no plan to reside at paternal family social worker was aware of this and now pregnant. Nothing gained for the child just another fat wad put in care providers pockets.
1 big money pit
Re: 1 big money pit
Hi,
here is exactly what you can do for your specific situation to move past their "complaints" trap and hit them where it hurts legally:
1. Demand the "Audit Trail" (The Smoking Gun)
Social Services use digital systems (like Liquidlogic or Mosaic) to store your data. These systems are forensic; they record every single "event"—who logged in, which document they opened, and crucially, who deleted or edited a file.
The Move: Do not just ask for "your files." Submit a Subject Access Request (SAR) to the Data Protection Officer specifically for the "System Audit Logs and Metadata" for your daughter’s records.
The Law: Under Section 173 of the Data Protection Act 2018, it is a criminal offence for a Council officer to erase or alter data to prevent it from being disclosed. If the log shows a manager deleted a risk assessment before a court hearing, you have proof of a crime.
2. Misfeasance in Public Office
The £500 offer you were given is a "bribe" to make you go away because they know they are in trouble. By offering money, they have admitted fault.
The Move: Refuse the offer. Use that admission to find a Civil Litigation Solicitor (not a family lawyer) to sue for Misfeasance in Public Office. This applies when an official acts with "targeted malice" or "reckless indifference" to the harm they cause. Given your daughter's injuries and the deleted evidence, this is your strongest path to real justice.
3. Perjury and Contempt of Court
While there are no juries in Family Court, every social worker signs a Statement of Truth.
The Law: If they intentionally omitted high-risk assessments from a court chronology, they have misled the Judge. This is Contempt of Court.
The Move for you is that You can apply to the Judge for permission to bring committal proceedings. Nothing terrifies a Local Authority more than the threat of a Social Work Manager being sent to prison for lying to a Judge.
4. Your Video Evidence
You mentioned a video of a social worker admitting they would place a child at risk.
The Move: Do not give this to the Council, they will suppress it. Send it directly to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) as part of a formal data complaint and to Social Work England as a high-priority "Fitness to Practice" referral.
They want you to stay in the "Complaints Process" because they control it. You need to move into Data Law and Civil Tort Law. Once you demand the Audit Logs, their ability to lie disappears because the computer records don't lie.
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For full transparency, I am not an official adviser for this forum. I am a parent who has been through a long and successful legal battle with a local authority, and I am here to offer supportive, strategic advice based on my own lived experience
here is exactly what you can do for your specific situation to move past their "complaints" trap and hit them where it hurts legally:
1. Demand the "Audit Trail" (The Smoking Gun)
Social Services use digital systems (like Liquidlogic or Mosaic) to store your data. These systems are forensic; they record every single "event"—who logged in, which document they opened, and crucially, who deleted or edited a file.
The Move: Do not just ask for "your files." Submit a Subject Access Request (SAR) to the Data Protection Officer specifically for the "System Audit Logs and Metadata" for your daughter’s records.
The Law: Under Section 173 of the Data Protection Act 2018, it is a criminal offence for a Council officer to erase or alter data to prevent it from being disclosed. If the log shows a manager deleted a risk assessment before a court hearing, you have proof of a crime.
2. Misfeasance in Public Office
The £500 offer you were given is a "bribe" to make you go away because they know they are in trouble. By offering money, they have admitted fault.
The Move: Refuse the offer. Use that admission to find a Civil Litigation Solicitor (not a family lawyer) to sue for Misfeasance in Public Office. This applies when an official acts with "targeted malice" or "reckless indifference" to the harm they cause. Given your daughter's injuries and the deleted evidence, this is your strongest path to real justice.
3. Perjury and Contempt of Court
While there are no juries in Family Court, every social worker signs a Statement of Truth.
The Law: If they intentionally omitted high-risk assessments from a court chronology, they have misled the Judge. This is Contempt of Court.
The Move for you is that You can apply to the Judge for permission to bring committal proceedings. Nothing terrifies a Local Authority more than the threat of a Social Work Manager being sent to prison for lying to a Judge.
4. Your Video Evidence
You mentioned a video of a social worker admitting they would place a child at risk.
The Move: Do not give this to the Council, they will suppress it. Send it directly to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) as part of a formal data complaint and to Social Work England as a high-priority "Fitness to Practice" referral.
They want you to stay in the "Complaints Process" because they control it. You need to move into Data Law and Civil Tort Law. Once you demand the Audit Logs, their ability to lie disappears because the computer records don't lie.
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For full transparency, I am not an official adviser for this forum. I am a parent who has been through a long and successful legal battle with a local authority, and I am here to offer supportive, strategic advice based on my own lived experience
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Re: 1 big money pit
Dear Rat them out
Welcome to the parents’ discussion board. Thank you for your post. My name is Suzie. I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser.
I am very sorry to hear about the difficult experiences you and your daughter have had. And that in the past you complained to both children’s services and the Local Government Ombudsman and are not happy with the outcome. I understand that your complaints were that you believe a social worker deliberately failed to include a relevant assessment in the chronology in your daughter’s care proceedings and that a report sent to education was also not included. You are concerned that the social worker committed perjury.
You are unhappy with the outcome of your complaints. You refused an offer of £500 compensation made to you during Stage 2 of the complaints process which you explain was because of the severity of the injuries suffered by your daughter in what I think was a road traffic accident. I am very sorry to hear that she was badly injured. In your case, children’s services did not proceed to a stage 3 review panel as part of the complaints process but referred you to the Local Government Ombudsman who I understand did not uphold your complaint.
You also complained to Social Work England as you were concerned about your daughter’s social worker’s fitness to practice. Unfortunately, this process took a year to conclude; no findings were made against the social worker.
You have had to make a new complaint about children’s services as you are concerned that your daughter achieved no GCSEs while in their care and that she has now left care, with no support, to reside with her paternal family. I am not sure if I have understood properly that your daughter is now pregnant? If so, I hope she can access all the support she may need. I will provide some advice later about her potential rights to support as a care leaver. Children’s services may want to undertake a pre-birth assessment too. She is welcome to contact Family Rights Group advice service if that is the case.
I can see that you are upset about how children’s services worked with your daughter and the outcome of their involvement.
You did the right thing by making a complaint about the issues that concerned you.
However, children’s services’ complaints process and the LGO cannot consider reports shared in the court arena or matters decided upon in court. Any concerns about evidence disclosed (or withheld) during care proceedings are best addressed during the court case when as a parent in care proceedings you have legal representation. Perjury is a serious offence so where possible, it is best to get legal advice at the time from your solicitor if worried about information that has been wrongly withheld. You could contact the solicitor who represented you in the care proceedings to discuss if you wish.
I understand that you may not have been aware at the time and perhaps obtained the information about the assessment and report to education via a subject access request. In that situation, your option was to make a complaint which you have done.
You can contact the Office of the Information Commissioner in relation to any concerns you have about information sharing and about data protection issues.
You could also consider getting legal advice from a qualified solicitor in this field. Please see details of legal advice services here. It is always best to ensure that you consult with an experienced solicitor before considering embarking on any litigation.
But it may be that you have done all that you reasonably can to highlight your concerns about this issue and that it would not have influenced the court’s decision.
The only other suggestion I would make is that you can contact your local MP if you want to discuss your specific and general concerns about your daughter’s case and the wider child welfare system. Please clink on this link to find your MP’s contact details.
Another parent has impliedthat children’s services offer of £500 to you as part of their Stage 2 investigation into your complaint was a ‘bribe’ to make you go away. This is not correct. It is usual practice when a Complaints investigator finds fault with children’s services and when they recognise distress caused to a parent through their actions or how they conducted their role to offer a financial sum as a remedy. Of course, the complainant has a choice about whether to accept or not. You declined this offer, for the reasons you explained.
In relation to your current complaint, you may find it helpful to see our advice on Complaints procedures here. Depending on your daughter’s age, her consent to the complaint may be required.
As she is a care leaver, she may be entitled to leaving care support. We have some helpful advice sheets 4b) and 4c) here. There are also a range of charities and advocates who advise and assist care leavers such as Become and Coram Voice – their contact details are included on the final page of each advice sheet.
It is worrying to hear that a social worker has stated on video that they would place a child at risk. If you are worried that a particular child is at risk, then you can ask that this is investigated by:
Contacting the Police.
Contacting children’s services (social services) where the child lives (if you have this information) or
Contacting the NSPCC
If you are not concerned about a particular child but the social worker is making a general statement which worries you then you can consider:
Contacting their employer (the local authority children’s services department) – you can contact the Director of Children’s Services directly (you should be able to find their contact details online)
Contacting Social Work England
If you would like to talk to an experienced adviser about your situation then please call the freephone advice line on 0808 8010366, the lines are open from 9.30 am to 3.00 pm, Mon to Fri. You can also post back on this forum if you prefer or send an advice enquiry form.
I hope that this is helpful.
With best wishes
Suzie
Welcome to the parents’ discussion board. Thank you for your post. My name is Suzie. I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser.
I am very sorry to hear about the difficult experiences you and your daughter have had. And that in the past you complained to both children’s services and the Local Government Ombudsman and are not happy with the outcome. I understand that your complaints were that you believe a social worker deliberately failed to include a relevant assessment in the chronology in your daughter’s care proceedings and that a report sent to education was also not included. You are concerned that the social worker committed perjury.
You are unhappy with the outcome of your complaints. You refused an offer of £500 compensation made to you during Stage 2 of the complaints process which you explain was because of the severity of the injuries suffered by your daughter in what I think was a road traffic accident. I am very sorry to hear that she was badly injured. In your case, children’s services did not proceed to a stage 3 review panel as part of the complaints process but referred you to the Local Government Ombudsman who I understand did not uphold your complaint.
You also complained to Social Work England as you were concerned about your daughter’s social worker’s fitness to practice. Unfortunately, this process took a year to conclude; no findings were made against the social worker.
You have had to make a new complaint about children’s services as you are concerned that your daughter achieved no GCSEs while in their care and that she has now left care, with no support, to reside with her paternal family. I am not sure if I have understood properly that your daughter is now pregnant? If so, I hope she can access all the support she may need. I will provide some advice later about her potential rights to support as a care leaver. Children’s services may want to undertake a pre-birth assessment too. She is welcome to contact Family Rights Group advice service if that is the case.
I can see that you are upset about how children’s services worked with your daughter and the outcome of their involvement.
You did the right thing by making a complaint about the issues that concerned you.
However, children’s services’ complaints process and the LGO cannot consider reports shared in the court arena or matters decided upon in court. Any concerns about evidence disclosed (or withheld) during care proceedings are best addressed during the court case when as a parent in care proceedings you have legal representation. Perjury is a serious offence so where possible, it is best to get legal advice at the time from your solicitor if worried about information that has been wrongly withheld. You could contact the solicitor who represented you in the care proceedings to discuss if you wish.
I understand that you may not have been aware at the time and perhaps obtained the information about the assessment and report to education via a subject access request. In that situation, your option was to make a complaint which you have done.
You can contact the Office of the Information Commissioner in relation to any concerns you have about information sharing and about data protection issues.
You could also consider getting legal advice from a qualified solicitor in this field. Please see details of legal advice services here. It is always best to ensure that you consult with an experienced solicitor before considering embarking on any litigation.
But it may be that you have done all that you reasonably can to highlight your concerns about this issue and that it would not have influenced the court’s decision.
The only other suggestion I would make is that you can contact your local MP if you want to discuss your specific and general concerns about your daughter’s case and the wider child welfare system. Please clink on this link to find your MP’s contact details.
Another parent has impliedthat children’s services offer of £500 to you as part of their Stage 2 investigation into your complaint was a ‘bribe’ to make you go away. This is not correct. It is usual practice when a Complaints investigator finds fault with children’s services and when they recognise distress caused to a parent through their actions or how they conducted their role to offer a financial sum as a remedy. Of course, the complainant has a choice about whether to accept or not. You declined this offer, for the reasons you explained.
In relation to your current complaint, you may find it helpful to see our advice on Complaints procedures here. Depending on your daughter’s age, her consent to the complaint may be required.
As she is a care leaver, she may be entitled to leaving care support. We have some helpful advice sheets 4b) and 4c) here. There are also a range of charities and advocates who advise and assist care leavers such as Become and Coram Voice – their contact details are included on the final page of each advice sheet.
It is worrying to hear that a social worker has stated on video that they would place a child at risk. If you are worried that a particular child is at risk, then you can ask that this is investigated by:
Contacting the Police.
Contacting children’s services (social services) where the child lives (if you have this information) or
Contacting the NSPCC
If you are not concerned about a particular child but the social worker is making a general statement which worries you then you can consider:
Contacting their employer (the local authority children’s services department) – you can contact the Director of Children’s Services directly (you should be able to find their contact details online)
Contacting Social Work England
If you would like to talk to an experienced adviser about your situation then please call the freephone advice line on 0808 8010366, the lines are open from 9.30 am to 3.00 pm, Mon to Fri. You can also post back on this forum if you prefer or send an advice enquiry form.
I hope that this is helpful.
With best wishes
Suzie
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