Hi there,
On 28th October, SS turned up at our door with 2 police officers (1 a trainee) in regards to comments made by our disabled twin daughters whilst in school, I will name them as Twin F and Twin L.
Twin F stated "she got slapped" during a lesson about abuse and claimed it happened 2 days prior to her claim. Twin L claimed she was inappropriately touched by her uncle.
When the twins were interviewed In our home, Twin F changed her story claiming it was "2-3 months ago or something like that" but couldn't name who did it or where it happened. Twin F refused blindly that she had never said that and wanted to call her teacher a liar.
SW told us that another SW would be out to question our youngest 2 daughters within 48 hours but they still havent come out to see them. I spoke to the SW 3 days later, asking if she could find out when Twin L had made this claim and she said she would get right on it but no response as yet.
Next day, Twin F told us she went into school and changed her story again saying it was 2-3 years ago she got slapped. 26 days later, we've not heard a thing about the investigation.
Now, Twin F has had a bad reputation of making false allegations against me and my wife and also against former teachers and their former PA which were all quashed as she always changes her story and its been put down to attention seeking. Twin L on the other hand, has never been like this and it is a first, yet she is still adamant that she never said anything like this.
We still havent heard anything from SS and it dumfounds me that if there was anything to these allegations, then they wouldn't be leaving it this long to finalise, let alone the risks our children were potentially facing if the allegations were true. Also as the 15 working days period has passed for an ICPC, surely they must have some doubt of these allegations aswell.
We are also questioning the reliability of their school as it has come under a lot of scrutiny within the last 12 months as OFSTED reports have gone from outstanding to requires improvement and it has been noted that there are at least 2 teachers/TA's who have been found guilty of physical abuse to students recently.
Another reason I am questioning the school is that I received an email from Twin F's teacher stating that Twin F was touched on her bottom by another student during a music lesson, early last week. When I questioned Twin F, she said she wasn't as she doesn't have music lessons and that it was infact Twin L who was touched on her bottom by another student during her music lesson. This leads me to believe that maybe the accusation that was made by Twin L initially was actually made by Twin F and they've gotten the wrong child?
What should be our next steps be please?
S47 initiated after false allegations
Re: S47 initiated after false allegations
Hi Fatherof480,
I’m really glad you’ve posted, because what you are describing is one of the most common and frightening situations parents face when a Section 47 is triggered based on unclear or inconsistent school disclosures. You are not alone in this , and the long silence from social services is actually a strong sign that they do not believe there is immediate safeguarding risk.
Let me break down what is happening and what you can do next.
1. The inconsistent disclosures matter more than you think
Twin F has changed her story:
2 days ago
then 2–3 months ago
then 2–3 years ago
then denied ever saying it at all
This pattern tells professionals the allegation is not reliable evidence of harm.
The fact she called the teacher a liar is also significant in terms of credibility.
You mentioned she has a history of false allegations due to attention-seeking, social workers will already know this and will factor it in.
Twin L denies the allegation made in her name.
That is also important.
Professionals do not treat inconsistent historic allegations (with no named perpetrator and no location) as evidence of abuse.
2. If they truly believed the children were unsafe, you would NOT be hearing silence
When an allegation is believed to be credible, the timeline is:
Same-day visit
Strategy meeting within 24 hours
Section 47 enquiries begin immediately
ICPC within 15 working days
Full investigation written
Safety plan in place
You are past the ICPC window with:
no follow-up
no interviews
no meetings
no concerns raised
no interim safety plan
The lack of action means they do not believe these disclosures amount to significant harm.
3. You are right to question the school’s reliability
If the school ,mixed up which twin was touched or
communicated poorly
confused incidents
has teachers recently found guilty of abusing students
is under scrutiny from Ofsted
…then the possibility of misreporting or misinterpreting a disclosure is absolutely real.
Schools sometimes report allegations incorrectly, especially when children have disabilities or communication differences.
4. Your next steps (the ones that actually protect your family)
A. Email the social worker and manager , short, factual, in writing
You simply ask for the below ( change the parts inside the brackets)
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Subject: Request for Update and Clarification – Section 47 Enquiry re [Children’s Names]
Dear [Social Worker’s Name] and [Team Manager’s Name],
I am writing regarding the Section 47 enquiry that was initiated on 28 October in relation to my daughters, [Twin F] and [Twin L].
On that date, you attended our home with two police officers and informed us that:
[Twin F] had reported being “slapped”; and
[Twin L] had reported inappropriate touching by an uncle.
You also advised that another social worker would visit within 48 hours to speak with our younger daughters. That visit has not yet taken place, and we have received no further update on the investigation.
Since then, there have been significant inconsistencies in the information we have been told:
[Twin F] has changed her account several times (two days ago, 2–3 months ago, 2–3 years ago) and has been unable to say who allegedly hurt her or where.
[Twin L] remains clear that she did not make the allegation attributed to her.
Given that more than 15 working days have now passed since the Section 47 started, I would be grateful if you could please:
Confirm whether the Section 47 enquiry is still ongoing or has been concluded.
If it has been concluded, confirm the outcome in writing.
Clarify, in summary, what disclosures were actually recorded from each child and on what date.
Confirm whether a Child Protection Conference has been held or will be held, and if not, why not.
As parents, we are fully committed to safeguarding our children and to cooperating with any reasonable enquiries. At the same time, we need clear written information about the status and outcome of this investigation so that we can understand what, if anything, is required of us going forward.
I would be grateful for a response within 10 working days.
Kind regards,
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Keep all communication in writing going forward
No calls.
No verbal updates.
Everything written becomes evidence.
D. Document every inconsistency in a calm timeline
This will help if the case drags on.
5. What not to do
Don’t confront the school emotionally
Don’t speculate about staff guilt
Don’t accuse professionals
Don’t chase SS aggressively (it can backfire)
Your strength right now is the LA’s silence , which tells you the case is not escalating.
Nothing in your description resembles a case where parents are removed from children.
This looks like more like inconsistent disclosures, communication errors, a cautious school and an LA carrying out the bare minimum of checks and now letting the case drift because it’s not supported by evidence.
You are not in danger here.
You are in a paperwork limbo.
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For full transparency, I am not an official adviser for this forum. I am a parent who has been through a long and successful legal battle with a local authority, and I share guidance based on lived experience. It is up to each parent to decide what is right for their situation.
I’m really glad you’ve posted, because what you are describing is one of the most common and frightening situations parents face when a Section 47 is triggered based on unclear or inconsistent school disclosures. You are not alone in this , and the long silence from social services is actually a strong sign that they do not believe there is immediate safeguarding risk.
Let me break down what is happening and what you can do next.
1. The inconsistent disclosures matter more than you think
Twin F has changed her story:
2 days ago
then 2–3 months ago
then 2–3 years ago
then denied ever saying it at all
This pattern tells professionals the allegation is not reliable evidence of harm.
The fact she called the teacher a liar is also significant in terms of credibility.
You mentioned she has a history of false allegations due to attention-seeking, social workers will already know this and will factor it in.
Twin L denies the allegation made in her name.
That is also important.
Professionals do not treat inconsistent historic allegations (with no named perpetrator and no location) as evidence of abuse.
2. If they truly believed the children were unsafe, you would NOT be hearing silence
When an allegation is believed to be credible, the timeline is:
Same-day visit
Strategy meeting within 24 hours
Section 47 enquiries begin immediately
ICPC within 15 working days
Full investigation written
Safety plan in place
You are past the ICPC window with:
no follow-up
no interviews
no meetings
no concerns raised
no interim safety plan
The lack of action means they do not believe these disclosures amount to significant harm.
3. You are right to question the school’s reliability
If the school ,mixed up which twin was touched or
communicated poorly
confused incidents
has teachers recently found guilty of abusing students
is under scrutiny from Ofsted
…then the possibility of misreporting or misinterpreting a disclosure is absolutely real.
Schools sometimes report allegations incorrectly, especially when children have disabilities or communication differences.
4. Your next steps (the ones that actually protect your family)
A. Email the social worker and manager , short, factual, in writing
You simply ask for the below ( change the parts inside the brackets)
-----------
Subject: Request for Update and Clarification – Section 47 Enquiry re [Children’s Names]
Dear [Social Worker’s Name] and [Team Manager’s Name],
I am writing regarding the Section 47 enquiry that was initiated on 28 October in relation to my daughters, [Twin F] and [Twin L].
On that date, you attended our home with two police officers and informed us that:
[Twin F] had reported being “slapped”; and
[Twin L] had reported inappropriate touching by an uncle.
You also advised that another social worker would visit within 48 hours to speak with our younger daughters. That visit has not yet taken place, and we have received no further update on the investigation.
Since then, there have been significant inconsistencies in the information we have been told:
[Twin F] has changed her account several times (two days ago, 2–3 months ago, 2–3 years ago) and has been unable to say who allegedly hurt her or where.
[Twin L] remains clear that she did not make the allegation attributed to her.
Given that more than 15 working days have now passed since the Section 47 started, I would be grateful if you could please:
Confirm whether the Section 47 enquiry is still ongoing or has been concluded.
If it has been concluded, confirm the outcome in writing.
Clarify, in summary, what disclosures were actually recorded from each child and on what date.
Confirm whether a Child Protection Conference has been held or will be held, and if not, why not.
As parents, we are fully committed to safeguarding our children and to cooperating with any reasonable enquiries. At the same time, we need clear written information about the status and outcome of this investigation so that we can understand what, if anything, is required of us going forward.
I would be grateful for a response within 10 working days.
Kind regards,
----
Keep all communication in writing going forward
No calls.
No verbal updates.
Everything written becomes evidence.
D. Document every inconsistency in a calm timeline
This will help if the case drags on.
5. What not to do
Don’t confront the school emotionally
Don’t speculate about staff guilt
Don’t accuse professionals
Don’t chase SS aggressively (it can backfire)
Your strength right now is the LA’s silence , which tells you the case is not escalating.
Nothing in your description resembles a case where parents are removed from children.
This looks like more like inconsistent disclosures, communication errors, a cautious school and an LA carrying out the bare minimum of checks and now letting the case drift because it’s not supported by evidence.
You are not in danger here.
You are in a paperwork limbo.
----------
For full transparency, I am not an official adviser for this forum. I am a parent who has been through a long and successful legal battle with a local authority, and I share guidance based on lived experience. It is up to each parent to decide what is right for their situation.
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Re: S47 initiated after false allegations
Thank you for replying Winter25, the information was extremely helpful.
I do im fact have an update from the school which has really angered me and I have submitted a formal complaint to SS through our local council.
I spoke to the schools vice principal if she could give me the info I required in regards to both girls and what was actually stated by them. To my horror, I was informed that Twin L in fact, didn't make an allegation of being inappropriately touched by an uncle. They were having a class discussion, pupil led, about abuse. Twin L only stated that somebody could be inappropriately touched by an uncle, and the VP said she had it recorded word-for-word on her system. Also, Twin F had stated during a class discussion on relationships, after another student mentioned about a partner could be hit, that she said she got smacked and gave no timeline as to when this occurred, yet social reported that she got slapped 2 days before this discussion.
Something is seriously amiss as both statements have been changed somewhere between the schools safeguarding team and the CDT (children's disability team) and its made things look worse than what it actually is.
This has caused myself and my wife to be succumbed to unnecessary stress which has seriously affected my sleep and given me insomnia and my wife has recently undergone surgery to remove cancer from her thyroid gland and she has been worried sick. Someone is going to pay for this mess up.
I do im fact have an update from the school which has really angered me and I have submitted a formal complaint to SS through our local council.
I spoke to the schools vice principal if she could give me the info I required in regards to both girls and what was actually stated by them. To my horror, I was informed that Twin L in fact, didn't make an allegation of being inappropriately touched by an uncle. They were having a class discussion, pupil led, about abuse. Twin L only stated that somebody could be inappropriately touched by an uncle, and the VP said she had it recorded word-for-word on her system. Also, Twin F had stated during a class discussion on relationships, after another student mentioned about a partner could be hit, that she said she got smacked and gave no timeline as to when this occurred, yet social reported that she got slapped 2 days before this discussion.
Something is seriously amiss as both statements have been changed somewhere between the schools safeguarding team and the CDT (children's disability team) and its made things look worse than what it actually is.
This has caused myself and my wife to be succumbed to unnecessary stress which has seriously affected my sleep and given me insomnia and my wife has recently undergone surgery to remove cancer from her thyroid gland and she has been worried sick. Someone is going to pay for this mess up.
Re: S47 initiated after false allegations
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Re: S47 initiated after false allegations
Dear Fatherof480
Welcome to the parents’ discussion board. Thank you for your posts. My name is Suzie. I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser. Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your queries.
I am sorry to hear about your difficult family situation and that it is having an emotional toll on you and your wife. It is distressing to be involved in a child protection process.
You explain that your twin girls, both of whom have disabilities, said at school (during a lesson on abuse) that they had been abused. One child said she had been slapped, two days earlier, and her sister said that she had been touched inappropriately by her uncle. This prompted police and children’s services to attend your home to follow up on the concerns raised about possible physical and sexual abuse. You cooperated fully. The social worker spoke to the girls about what had happened and when. You describe how one of your daughters gave a different account of what she had said and when the alleged incident had happened and that your other daughter denied saying anything.
The social worker told you that another social worker would visit to speak to your two younger girls in the next couple of days – but unfortunately, this never happened.
Since then, you have had no real update or information from children’s services. You had concerns about the school’s reliability and contacted them to clarify what the girls said and what timeline they mentioned. This has resulted in the school providing a quite different account of what the girls said and what you were told the referral was about by children’s services.
Your frustration and distress at the lack of updates and your discovery that different information is held by the girls’ school and children’s services is understandable. You are doing your best to cooperate but are not being kept as informed or updated as you should be which adds another layer of distress to a difficult situation.
You have now submitted a formal complaint to children’s services. Children’s services should respond to your stage 1 complaint within 10 working days so hopefully you will get that response soon. It is not ok that your family has been left in such an uncertain and upsetting situation and that children’s services have not kept you and your wife updated about the enquiries they are conducting. The maximum timescale for completing an assessment is 45 working days (unless they are classed as complex) but child protection enquiries are often completed much sooner.
Another parent has suggested that you write to the social worker and their manager asking for clarification about the status of the child protection enquiries. In addition, you can also ask that they confirm when you will be provided with a copy of their assessment so that you can see what information has been gathered, how your views have been represented, how information has been analysed and what their recommendations are. I appreciate that you may have already raised these queries in your complaint but if not then you can do so separately. As the information to date, including about what was said and when it refers to, has been confusing and inconsistent, it will be important to see how the social worker makes sense of this in their assessment and how the lack of clarity is addressed.
Please see details of services below that may be of interest to you:
• Child abuse, bullying and exploitation
• Disabilty including learning disability
• Advocacy for children and young people.
Please post back if you have any further queries. If you would like to speak to an adviser the lines are open rom 9.30 am to 3.00 pm, Mon to Fri (except bank holidays) on freephone 0808 8010366.
I hope this helps.
Best wishes
Suzie
Welcome to the parents’ discussion board. Thank you for your posts. My name is Suzie. I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser. Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your queries.
I am sorry to hear about your difficult family situation and that it is having an emotional toll on you and your wife. It is distressing to be involved in a child protection process.
You explain that your twin girls, both of whom have disabilities, said at school (during a lesson on abuse) that they had been abused. One child said she had been slapped, two days earlier, and her sister said that she had been touched inappropriately by her uncle. This prompted police and children’s services to attend your home to follow up on the concerns raised about possible physical and sexual abuse. You cooperated fully. The social worker spoke to the girls about what had happened and when. You describe how one of your daughters gave a different account of what she had said and when the alleged incident had happened and that your other daughter denied saying anything.
The social worker told you that another social worker would visit to speak to your two younger girls in the next couple of days – but unfortunately, this never happened.
Since then, you have had no real update or information from children’s services. You had concerns about the school’s reliability and contacted them to clarify what the girls said and what timeline they mentioned. This has resulted in the school providing a quite different account of what the girls said and what you were told the referral was about by children’s services.
Your frustration and distress at the lack of updates and your discovery that different information is held by the girls’ school and children’s services is understandable. You are doing your best to cooperate but are not being kept as informed or updated as you should be which adds another layer of distress to a difficult situation.
You have now submitted a formal complaint to children’s services. Children’s services should respond to your stage 1 complaint within 10 working days so hopefully you will get that response soon. It is not ok that your family has been left in such an uncertain and upsetting situation and that children’s services have not kept you and your wife updated about the enquiries they are conducting. The maximum timescale for completing an assessment is 45 working days (unless they are classed as complex) but child protection enquiries are often completed much sooner.
Another parent has suggested that you write to the social worker and their manager asking for clarification about the status of the child protection enquiries. In addition, you can also ask that they confirm when you will be provided with a copy of their assessment so that you can see what information has been gathered, how your views have been represented, how information has been analysed and what their recommendations are. I appreciate that you may have already raised these queries in your complaint but if not then you can do so separately. As the information to date, including about what was said and when it refers to, has been confusing and inconsistent, it will be important to see how the social worker makes sense of this in their assessment and how the lack of clarity is addressed.
Please see details of services below that may be of interest to you:
• Child abuse, bullying and exploitation
• Disabilty including learning disability
• Advocacy for children and young people.
Please post back if you have any further queries. If you would like to speak to an adviser the lines are open rom 9.30 am to 3.00 pm, Mon to Fri (except bank holidays) on freephone 0808 8010366.
I hope this helps.
Best wishes
Suzie
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