Care Proceedings

[Dody]

Hello
Is there any other course I should take besides parenting courses? To support myself to get my kids back?

[KatKat10]

Hi Dody

Depends on your current situation. Parenting courses are a good idea. Have you asked Childrens services to refer you and pay for the costs, as most of these types of classes are run by private providers? If they refuse to refer and pay, you can address this with your legal advisor. I would suggest counselling available free via the NHS, they offer 6 sessions, you can self refer via the NHs site. Just be careful what you say in the sessions as children's services may go via the court to get the report. Also look at college courses that are available, do something you are interested in to gain a qualification if need be. Keep focused and good luck.

KatKat

[Dody]

Hi katkat10
I initially got a referral for parenting courses, and I completed it successfully. I also had a referral from a psychiatrist to conduct sessions, but it was not available for free. I got it in the private sector and also completed it successfully, but the judge refused to give the children at the present time because the police ruling was not available in the case that I filed against me because of leaving The children are alone at home, and I also need another re-evaluation by the doctor who referred me for treatment to make sure that I completed the sessions successfully. After that we will appeal the sponsorship decision, so I need to collect as many positive things as possible. I recently enrolled in college.

[Dody]

Hi Dody

Depends on your current situation. Parenting courses are a good idea. Have you asked Childrens services to refer you and pay for the costs, as most of these types of classes are run by private providers? If they refuse to refer and pay, you can address this with your legal advisor. I would suggest counselling available free via the NHS, they offer 6 sessions, you can self refer via the NHs site. Just be careful what you say in the sessions as children's services may go via the court to get the report. Also look at college courses that are available, do something you are interested in to gain a qualification if need be. Keep focused and good luck.

KatKat

Hi katkat
I initially got a referral for parenting courses, and I completed it successfully. I also had a referral from a psychiatrist to conduct sessions, but it was not available for free. I got it in the private sector and also completed it successfully, but the judge refused to give the children at the present time because the police ruling was not available in the case that I filed against me because of leaving The children are alone at home, and I also need another re-evaluation by the doctor who referred me for treatment to make sure that I completed the sessions successfully. After that we will appeal the sponsorship decision, so I need to collect as many positive things as possible. I recently enrolled in college.

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Dear Dody

Welcome to the parents’ discussion board and thank you for your posts. My name is Suzie and I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser. You have posted a few times and have received helpful responses from other parents. I will reply to the queries raised in your various posts here.

From the information provided, I think that you have come to the end of care proceedings. Is this right? One of the concerns was that you had left your children home alone. You don’t say their age but I am guessing that they are young children. Police were involved in relation to this.

You are wondering what more you can do to improve your chances of having the children returned to your care again. For your information, here is a link to how to apply to end a care order. You talked about appealing a sponsorship decision. I am not sure what this means.

You are already doing positive things to improve your situation such as completing a parenting course successfully, having sessions with a psychiatrist and you have recently enrolled in college. Well done for taking these steps.

You still need to have a re-evaluation done to confirm that you have successfully completed the sessions you were required to do. Is this requirement recorded in the court order? You can ask the solicitor who represented you to clarify how to proceed with this and in what timeframe. If children’s services are required to make this referral then they may need to be prompted to do so. I am not clear whether you are still awaiting the outcome of the police investigation or criminal court process. If you have/had a criminal solicitor they should be able to update you on this.

As your children are now in foster care, maintaining good contact with them is really important including then trying to progress this e.g. to more frequent sessions, moving towards unsupervised etc. You asked about the Independent Reviewing Officer (IRO); they are responsible for reviewing your children’s care plans and are a key professional for you to work with. Please see this advice here about the Looked After Child reviewing process and the role of the IRO in particular.

I think it might be a good idea for you to speak with an adviser at Family Rights Group so that we can understand your situation better and give you more tailored advice. If you would like to speak to us please ring our freephone advice line on 0808 8010366, Mon to Fri (except bank holidays) between 9.30 and 3.00 pm. Or if you prefer to post on this forum again with further questions or clarification please do.

With best wishes

Suzie

[Dody]

Dear Dody

Welcome to the parents’ discussion board and thank you for your posts. My name is Suzie and I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser. You have posted a few times and have received helpful responses from other parents. I will reply to the queries raised in your various posts here.

From the information provided, I think that you have come to the end of care proceedings. Is this right? One of the concerns was that you had left your children home alone. You don’t say their age but I am guessing that they are young children. Police were involved in relation to this.

You are wondering what more you can do to improve your chances of having the children returned to your care again. For your information, here is a link to how to apply to end a care order. You talked about appealing a sponsorship decision. I am not sure what this means.

You are already doing positive things to improve your situation such as completing a parenting course successfully, having sessions with a psychiatrist and you have recently enrolled in college. Well done for taking these steps.

You still need to have a re-evaluation done to confirm that you have successfully completed the sessions you were required to do. Is this requirement recorded in the court order? You can ask the solicitor who represented you to clarify how to proceed with this and in what timeframe. If children’s services are required to make this referral then they may need to be prompted to do so. I am not clear whether you are still awaiting the outcome of the police investigation or criminal court process. If you have/had a criminal solicitor they should be able to update you on this.

As your children are now in foster care, maintaining good contact with them is really important including then trying to progress this e.g. to more frequent sessions, moving towards unsupervised etc. You asked about the Independent Reviewing Officer (IRO); they are responsible for reviewing your children’s care plans and are a key professional for you to work with. Please see this advice here about the Looked After Child reviewing process and the role of the IRO in particular.

I think it might be a good idea for you to speak with an adviser at Family Rights Group so that we can understand your situation better and give you more tailored advice. If you would like to speak to us please ring our freephone advice line on 0808 8010366, Mon to Fri (except bank holidays) between 9.30 and 3.00 pm. Or if you prefer to post on this forum again with further questions or clarification please do.

With best wishes

Suzie

Dear suzie
‏When we attended the final court, the session was ended amicably, because the judge would not change his decision even if the sessions continued. The reason was that he could not give a ruling to return the children in the presence of another party, which is the police. The ruling of the police court should be known first, and he will not be able to postpone the ruling for That is why I give his judgment, and I also give what should be submitted in the event that we request the appeal again. We must obtain a judgment decision from the criminal court, as well as a new evaluation of my case after completing psychological treatment. Until the appeal, the children will remain long-term foster care. Unfortunately, the sessions between us have been greatly reduced. To one session per month. Can we get any solution to this problem? Can we increase the number of sessions as before? I think this will keep children away from me a lot.
‏My children are their ages when they were taken. My daughter was 8 years old and my son was 3 years old
‏Independent review officer supports everything they say. He was never impartial. Even the mistakes that were challenged by Foster Care did not give any reaction.

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Dear Dody,

Thankyou for your further post.

You say that the contact sessions with your children have been reduced to only one session per month. You would like to know if this can be increased. The first step towards increasing contact sessions is to ensure that you attend the current contact sessions regularly and reliably. It is also important to make sure that you do everything you can to make sure that these sessions are a positive experience for your children. You can then talk to the social worker, their manager and the independent reviewing officer about increasing these sessions, and put forward your suggestions. Make sure that you think about what kind of contact would be best for your children. You can find more tips about this on our website HERE.

You might also find it helpful to read the information on our website HERE which has lots of advice and guidance regarding contact when children are in care under a court order.

I hope that the above has been of some help. If you would like any further advice then you can either post here again or call our free, confidential helpline on 0808 801 0366 (Monday to Friday, 9:30am – 3pm) to speak with an adviser.

Best wishes,
Suzie

[KatKat10]

Hi Dody
Good to hear you have completed the parenting classes, I found my sessions very useful. My advice is to keep going and stay positive (it is very hard but do not let them break you) and also be assertive with Children's services. Is there a reason the contact sessions were reduced? Do your children have a guardian appointed by the court and do you have a good relationship with the children's guardian? They should be the voice of your children and should be informed of your children's progress and welfare. Maybe contact the guardian to see if you can get the contact sessions increased.

[Dody]

Hi Dody
Good to hear you have completed the parenting classes, I found my sessions very useful. My advice is to keep going and stay positive (it is very hard but do not let them break you) and also be assertive with Children's services. Is there a reason the contact sessions were reduced?
Do your children have a guardian appointed by the court and do you have a good relationship with the children's guardian? They should be the voice of your children and should be informed of your children's progress and welfare. Maybe contact the guardian to see if you can get the contact sessions increased.

Hi katkat10
‏The problem is that everyone agrees to reduce the sessions within the court’s decision to make the children long-term foster care. All of their reports are negative against us, despite our hard work. They say that we did not reach the amount of psychological harm that we caused to the children. They also rely on the interpretive report that came against me. I also responded to the doctor’s suggestion and did a job. The treatment sessions are on my own account, and I responded to the treatment and completed it. When I came to the final session, it was not considered, and the reason for refusal was the desire for a new evaluation from the first doctor to ensure the effectiveness of the treatment. They also said that they cannot return the children in the presence of a police court. The police court must attend and know the ruling for them. A psychological evaluation was done New and return after six months, and in the meantime, the family court ruling will be implemented and contact will be reduced as suggested, and everyone agrees to it. Are they likely to accept the request to increase contact again? What can I do to support my application?

[Dody]

Dear Dody,

Thankyou for your further post.

You say that the contact sessions with your children have been reduced to only one session per month. You would like to know if this can be increased. The first step towards increasing contact sessions is to ensure that you attend the current contact sessions regularly and reliably. It is also important to make sure that you do everything you can to make sure that these sessions are a positive experience for your children. You can then talk to the social worker, their manager and the independent reviewing officer about increasing these sessions, and put forward your suggestions. Make sure that you think about what kind of contact would be best for your children. You can find more tips about this on our website HERE.

You might also find it helpful to read the information on our website HERE which has lots of advice and guidance regarding contact when children are in care under a court order.

I hope that the above has been of some help. If you would like any further advice then you can either post here again or call our free, confidential helpline on 0808 801 0366 (Monday to Friday, 9:30am – 3pm) to speak with an adviser.

Best wishes,
Suzie

Hi suzie
‎‏Unfortunately, the manager of the local authorities is working against us. There was a discussion between him and my husband after the end of the final session. There was a discussion about my husband's request to change the family in which the children are currently residing as a result of bad events that my child was exposed to, and we have filed a complaint against them because we suspected that my child was subjected to sexual harassment, after six month from kids taken from me,my son started crying a lot and did not want to go back to the house of that family. His behavior changed a lot, He asked us to take him. He continued for a long time in this situation, in addition to using sexual words and describing the size of his *****, as well as touching my husband and trying to open the buttons of his father’s pants, and when the father told him that this was wrong. He replied: No, it is normal! My child's condition has changed a lot, and everyone heard and recorded the words that he says, except for the social worker for children, despite her shock when she heard the words for the first time and her features changed, but she denied and wrote the word in a way that gives another meaning and it is the same word, although all the other employees wrote the correct word The responsible and guardian of the children came after a while after my son stopped insulting, after informing the foster care of the problem and denying his knowledge of this behavior. Her report was that there were no concerns. For information, when my son was taken, he was three years old and did not speak English at all. and we are muslem .My husband told the manager about changing the place of the children and that they are in danger, and how can they allow them to stay in such a place. He did not like what solicitor said,threatened my husband's lawyer that he would file a complaint against her.
‎‏Recently, we had a meeting about my children’s academic level. The teacher informed us that my son has a high activity in movement that is not excessive, but they evaluated him and found that he has ACES, and another doctor will do another evaluation for him. She informed us that the doctor wants to talk to us and with foster care to get more information About my son, she said that the meeting will be in the next week and she will send us the exact time in a message. At this meeting, the social worker was present. She was appointed shortly before the session. We waited for the school’s call and the message about the appointment, but we did not receive anything. My husband called several Several times, but there was no response. A few days later, school called and informed him that the meeting had been held with the doctor in the absence of my husband. My husband was surprised at the reason. I told him that the social service employee had requested that. She didn’t gave any refusal in front of us when we were at the meeting. She told her that if she wanted any information, I would contact the father and inform him of everything. The stranger thing is that the specialist never spoke to my husband about this matter and did not tell him to cancel his presence in the meeting. The most strangers thing that did I searched for the causes of the condition in my son ACES,I found that the reasons could be neglect or sexual abuse. We asked the independent reviewer for an explanation of what happened, but we have not yet received a response.