my children in care due to false allegations and facts

[ilaria2012]

Hi I'm ilaria I have 4 children who social services put in care with false allegations and facts then they tried to put them up for adoption which its been refused but now it looks like they stopping in care till they reach independence youngest 2 are safe with grandparents although like my eldest 2 can't come home when they reach independence my eldest daughter 7 son is 6 middle youngest is 4 and littlest will be 3 next week I was copinh alright untill the social services took only support I had which was the kids father he was a real gem but like me they had flase allegations against my kids father which we feel we are victims of their porn game the system is wrong and unjustified they even get to my 7 year old telling her things that upset her to get through me its disgusting I've been patronised about my weight false facts about my mother the lot and I shouldn't be tret like that I ve made a complaint but don't think nothing will get done I've told my solictor that I wanna appeal against the case as there's too many things wrong but he saying it won't make a difference as judgement been made already for the children to remain in care I ve done nothing wrong but be a fantastic mum to my children I miss them all so much I'm not coping well since last. Year when it happened been depressed lack of sleep and energy and over eating what else can I do???? Do I have the rights to make an appeal??? My children arnt doing well and arbt coping themself when they were at home they were fine now they saying kids got complex needs in my opinon that's because they r in care nothing to do with me one child had been self harming once in care and is still struggling I am worried about his mental state of mind and my daughter they all feel abandoned what can I do please help anyone xxxx

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Hi Ilaria

My name is Suzie, an advisor from the Family Rights Group.

I have sent you a private message, because your post breaches our message board rules about confidentiality. Please look at this before responding, then I will be happy to give you advice.

Best Wishes


Suzie

[ilaria2012]

Hi suzie I haven't received ur private message but I don't know what to do I ve recently been threanted by people in my area due to what's happened with kids my house been target for brick throwing my mum been threanted with her house being in fire and kids dad is gonna get beaten up by thugs and we haven't done nothing wrong plesse help I'm begging for help xxx

[ilaria2012]

I have removed the childrens names etc please any advice needed

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Hi Ilaria

Welcome to the discussion board. Thank you for your post and for changing it to remove the children's names. We have this rule to protect the confidentiality of members and their families. I am very sorry to hear about the difficult and distressing situation you are in regarding your children.

From what you have said, it sounds as though the care proceedings
regarding your children has now finished and final decisions have been made about all of the children. Is that right Ilaria?

I am assuming that your older 2 children are living with foster carers under full care orders. Is the plan for them to stay with the same foster carers until they grow up?

You said that your 2 younger children are with their grandparents. Is this under care orders or another sort of order such as a residence order or special guardianship order?

It is possible to appeal a care order if the court did not follow the law correctly when the decision was made. The timescale for making an appeal is very short, however- only a few weeks.

In your case, it sounds as though your solicitor has said that, unfortunately, you do not have grounds to make an appeal.

Even if all of the children are under care orders, you still have parental responsibility
for them, shared with the local authority and/ or the children’s grandparents. This means that you have a right to be involved in plans for the children, although you do not have the final say about what plans should be made.

I wonder if you are involved in the children’s “looked after child” review meetings. These are held every 6 months and are chaired by an independent reviewing officer or IRO. This person is very important and your might want to discuss any concerns you have about the children’s care plans with him/ her. This includes any concerns about contact with the children.

If the children are under full care orders, these will last until the children are 18. It is possible to apply to court for care orders to be removed but this is not an easy process. You would have to prove that there has been a significant change of circumstances since the care orders were made.

I hope that this answers some of your questions Ilaria. You may find it helpful to read our advice sheet about the powers and duties of children’s services when children are in the care system. Please do post back if you have any other questions, or call our free advice line 0808 8010366

Best Wishes

Suzie
Adviser
Family Rights Group

[ilaria2012]

hello
the grandparents have guardianship of my youngest 2 and eldeast 2 in care till they reach independant they are moving to another care placement permanant my son already was moved yesterday to me it feels like hes in a game of chess i cant wait till tehy reach 18 coz i might not be around only god knows what our future holds im now 31 this year by the time they come home i will be 49 and i aint waiting that long what changes do they need to see coz i do wanna appeal and drop the care order i am in a new relationship have been for 9mnths he has a lil girl of his own i live with them im working hes working. i tend to seek compensation coz this has done me no good since it happened im depressed cant consertrate at work i might end up being sacked i have lack of energy at times and over eating myself for comfort i am waiting to see councilling sometime in august.

[ilaria2012]

my health is at risk at high level

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Hi Ilaria

Sorry to hear that you are feeling so low.

It would be a good idea to speak to your solicitor about the best way forward, or other services you could receive at this time.

I recommend you update your GP, so they are fully aware of your circumstances, and may be able to increase your support, at what is clearly a very difficult period. They might even be able to progress your counselling appointments for you.

Remember you are not alone, and if you feel the need to talk to someone in confidence, please contact the Samaritans on 08457 90 90 90 http://www.samaritans.org/.

Best Wishes


Suzie

[Zahira1980]

Hi suzi
I am a mother of 6 Childern I am in the same
Shoes as you I have had the fact finding
The finding alleged to my hubby and that
He was abusing my 2 oldest sons and the
Juge as put me down as fail to protact I am
Still waiting for the final hearing and hope
I get them back in my care the youngest 4
Keep saying they want to come back home
But the social worker is not respecting there
Wishes i really need help as it is exacting my
Childern mentally my girl that is 4 she is wetting
Her bed and soiling her under wear I don't now
How to just get theme out of the foster care
Plz help
Thank you

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Hi Zahira

Welcome to the board.

Sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time in relation to the possible reunification of your children.

It is possible that they could receive support from Voice 0808 800 5792 http://www.voiceyp.org/ or NYAS (National Youth Advocacy Service) 0300 330 3131 http://www.nyas.net/?page_id=21 who both have advocates who may be able to visit young people who are in care. They can sometimes attend and help them to express themselves in meetings, or visit them in placemenet.

It would be good to speak to the Independent Reviewing Officer about your concerns about your children's views not being heard, and a wish to get them involved, as this could be discussed in the next Looked After Review meeting, and an action point added to the care plan.

Alternatively, with regards to the concerns you have about your 4 year old daughter's behavioural problems, it may be that there is a role for a play therapist from the local Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services to do a piece of work with her individually (or jointly with the carer). This agency also offer consultations to professionals around similar issues.

Have you considered contacting the Lucy Faithfull Foundation 0808 1000 900 http://www.lucyfaithfull.org/contact_us.htm for support in coming to terms around your own experiences of abuse as a family?

It would also be advisable to speak to your solicitor about the key issues, so you can plan a way forward together, at what is clearly a difficult time for you.

Best Wishes


Suzie