No contact allowed despite no risk assessment result

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No contact allowed despite no risk assessment result

Post by Shaftesbury » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:47 pm

A specialist assessment was carried out on my child's father who has convictions for a child sex offence (now spent). Father has no restrictions at all and the assessment came back saying he poses no risk to our child. However, children's services say he is not allowed any contact as despite what the assessment says they still feel he is a risk to our child.

Would love some advice please!

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Re: No contact allowed despite no risk assessment result

Post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:32 pm

Dear Shaftesbury

Welcome back to the parents’ discussion board and thank you for your post. I am sorry that I was not able to reply to you before now. I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulties.

I can see that you are continuing to have involvement from children’s services in relation to your partner who has past convictions for sex offences.

You do not say what children’s services’ current role is. Are they now involved in a child protection capacity?

I think when you posted some time previously you and your partner did not have any children together and the issues were in relation to the potential risk he might pose to your children from a previous relationship. If you now have a child together this has probably lead to a new assessment; his situation is different in so much as he is now a father and children’s services are likely to be looking into how able you are to keep this child safe too.

It seems that there is a discrepancy between the findings of the specialist risk assessment and children’s services assessment of any potential risk to your child. It is hard to comment on this without knowing more about the specialist risk assessment – who carried it out, at whose request, as part of which process etc. and exactly what the purpose was. It is unusual for a risk assessment to come back as ‘no’ risk as there is an element of risk in most situations especially where there has been a past history including a conviction. However, sometimes risks are reduced when people have engaged with specialist support and services and where they have developed appropriate insight and strategies. This can include the partner of the person about whom there is a concern. Have you/your partner discussed children’s services’ response with the specialist assessor to get their view?

Children’s services are the lead agency when it comes to child protection and they complete holistic assessments taking account of all relevant information and assessments including those undertaken by specialists. If they are recommending no contact this is because having considered all of this information they remain concerned for your child’s safety. You can ask them to explain in writing why they have come to this decision and to clarify where they differ from the specialist assessment. You could query what consideration has been given to supervised contact, as opposed to no contact? Also if there is any further work they suggest that your partner or you should do to address the concerns or any review planned. In fact, your partner should take the lead in clarifying matters as he is the child’s father and it is he who has been deemed unsafe to have contact with your child. He can also seek private law advice about this if he wishes to. Child Law Advice may be a good starting point. Contact is always about the child’s rights and needs.

It is important that you understand exactly why children’s services are making this recommendation and also that you know what steps they would take if their recommendation is not kept to.

Children’s services have a complaints procedure which you/your partner can consider, if need be.

You may find it helpful to contact the Stop it Now confidential helpline service on 0808 1000 900 or their family and friends forum .

Please do post again with an update on children’s services’ current involvement if you have a further query or if you would like to speak with an adviser please call the freephone helpline on 0808 8010366 Mon to Fri 9.30 am to 3.00 pm.

I hope this is helpful

With best wishes


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Re: No contact allowed despite no risk assessment result

Post by PerfectlySafeDad » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:13 pm

'The conviction is spent'. That should be the end of the matter, by any sense of logic and fair play. If this is true, then it means he committed a certain set of offences (or maybe even just one individual offence) and that that set of offences has been specifically addressed by the sentence, and the sentence is served, punishment has been done, rehabilitation has been done. It is SPENT. Does the term mean anything??
As time and time again on this forum, I feel I have to say "who the hell do the social services think they are to dismiss/walk over/negate what has been done by due process of British law, effectively enforcing their own life sentence and playing God in judging the fitness of an individual whose shame and misdeeds have already been officially and specifically rescinded. I call for it to be made illegal for them to interfere with anyone's life unless there is CURRENT evidence of misdeeds or risky behavour towards a child, or any current court order in force. If there isn't any of these, it should be deemed as harassment. They can't just trample over people to give themselves absurdly large margin's for error. It's ridiculous, and so wrong.

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