contesting a failed assessment

TheMA
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by TheMA » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:48 pm

Hi all,

I am delighted to let you know that today the courts granted special guardianship orders for both girls to be placed with me. There is a 12 month supervision order alongside yhe ordrs but i couldnt be happier with the result!

Not only 3 months ago the result really was looking like adoption so yo have this result is just amazing.

So now the transition will begin and within 3 months i will have them.in yheir placement full time and the real hard job will start :)

Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement and advice! I am proof that a litigant in person that doesnt fit the usual profile can overturn gailed assessments!

Thank you all again

A very happy auntie!!!!!!! :)

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Robin D
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Robin D » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:54 pm

That's brilliant news.

Good luck to you all. :D
Former F&F carer, foster carer, adopter and respite carer for umpteen children. Now retired and when with kids, making sure they 'go home' at the end of the day.

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Suzie, FRG Adviser
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:43 am

Well done! What good news! Keep posting to let us all know how the transition goes.

Suzie

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by TheMA » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:52 pm

Hi all....

So were 10 months into placement and im pleased to tell you all its working out perfectly :)

The children have settled amazingly well and have established i am the main care giver despite us having la supporting high level of contact with mum, we are already having monthly unsupervised overnights.

We had the 9 month review and the recommendation is no extension to the supervision order and la exits at 12 months.

Some things have been harder than they've needed to be, i didnt change their schools and commuted an hour each way everyday (one being in half the day!) as we are only just moving to suitably sized home (monday eeek!!)

Again thank you all for your advice, encouragement and kind support.

A very happy aunt and 2 nieces xx

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Robin D » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:18 pm

Good news and a testament to your tenacity. :D

Good luck with the house move.
Former F&F carer, foster carer, adopter and respite carer for umpteen children. Now retired and when with kids, making sure they 'go home' at the end of the day.

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:04 am

Dear TheMA,

I agree with Robin!

Thank you for posting back.

I am so glad that everything is working so well for you and your family.

You will be glad that the supervision order will be ending and that children services will be closing their case.

But do come back in the future if you need any further advice.

Suzie

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Luv2read » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Hi, can anybody give me some advice. My daughter is at court on Friday and ss are going for adoption for my grandson. Last week they were looking to place him with us with a sgo. Today they have changed their minds saying that they can't do that as I'm not responsible as I allow my 16 year old daughter (17 in 2 month) sleep at her boyfriend's house and I don't know everything about him and his parents. Is there anything I can do. We have done all the assessment and they were happy until this

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Robin D » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:21 pm

Luv2Read. I suggest you apply directly to the court office to be 'joined to the proceedings' as you were approved by SS for SGO. The court office will help you, but it costs £175 I think. Do not tell the SW until after you have done it and possibly not before Friday.

Then go to court Friday to put your case directly to the court. Unless you have loads of spare cash to spend on a solicitor, you will need to act for yourself.

If not already appointed, ask the court to appoint a solicitor for the child. You may at this stage just be fighting to prevent the order being made that day. The court may ask for an independent person to review CS recommendation.

Losing a bit of control over a near 17 year-old does not make you a bad parent. Your daughter is also well over the age of consent. The court though will want reassurance that you have thought about it and learnt from the experience, and what you might have done differently (although the reality is not a lot!).

Good luck.
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:16 pm

Dear luv2read,

As Robin has advised, you need to make an urgent application to be joined as a party to the proceedings.
You can use a C2 application or write a letter to the court setting out that you had been positively assessed and that you do not agree with children’s services new position. You want the opportunity to challenge it.
Have you got children services reasons in writing?
Do you know what the other parties (mum, dad and the guardian for grandson are saying). They must all be surprised by this sudden change in care plan and may not agree with children services position.

The court should only make an adoption order, if nothing else will do. It is the last resort.
Children services should have fully assessed all other possible carers for your grandson. In doing those assessments, they should consider all the pros and cons and fully assess each person considering whether any support could enable any person to be a carer. So if they decided that your decision was wrong, they could offer information and support about this to help you understand their concerns.

Have they asked your view about letting your daughter stay over at her boyfriend’s parents?
Did you assess the safety of the situation? Do you know your daughter’s boyfriend and his parents, for example?
Is your daughter particularly vulnerable and if so, was this taken into account?
As Robin pointed out, your daughter is at the age of consent. At 16, she is also old enough to make a lot of decisions herself.
To get urgent legal advice, you could also find a solicitor who specialises in children law and is accredited by the law society here.

Best wishes,
Suzie

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Post by Luv2read » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:42 am

Hi, I saw a solicitor and he spoke to my daughters solicitor as I have nothing in writing. So told me I had to get a solicitor to see the assessment they had done on us. We had passed the sgo assessment but they put an amendment in regarding my letting my daughter sleep at her boyfriends. We know her boyfriend. We haven't met his parents but know that they have a younger child in foster care who goes and sleep at home for a weekend once a fortnight. We went to court and my daughters solicitor said that I had took legal advice and was going to apply to be part of the proceedings. The judge decided to add us there and then. I am now awaiting to see if we can get legal aid. The gaurdian is agreeing with ssh for adoption. I don't know if we stand a chance when the professionals are against us.

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