contesting a failed assessment

TheMA
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby TheMA » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:46 pm

Hi there,

So... The LA have not recommended me. This is on the basis that I have had 3 episodes of depression where I have not taken up the counseling or therapy offered (this in my opinion was never needed and a waste of resource), and that I have not fully agreed that my sister poses a risk to her children.

I realise that this is still not the end but feel so deflated. The LA were late with the report therefore the FH date is now not going to be this month - the reason the LA were initially favoured over the ISW to carry out the SGO assessment was that they could get this completed in 10 weeks which they have now taken 12 weeks and this has effected the timetable.

The contact has been very badly organised since the beginning of mine (1.5 hours weekly - starting 6th March) down to the venue changing with no notification, to being cancelled without informing the foster carer and myself.

The social worker (who has joined late to the case) seems to have no idea what is best for these children as the foster carer and I have raised concerns regarding contact to him yet it is only when he is fronted out at meetings with others present do these concerns get addressed.

Without Legal advice I feel like its a lost case already :(

Kind Regards

A very deflated Auntie

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby mamma » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:55 pm

i really feel for you, Ive been going through it since last august keeps getting defered for more info. i started all this to get my g/s out of care its all so frustrating. has your contact been stopped now ??

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby ied53 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:47 am

Just a thought were you ever recommended to have counselling?? Your GP may have felt it wasn't indicated?? What was the reason for the depression some are reactive eg an event happens (death / relationship loss ) Chemical - your body chemistry which can be rebalanced etc check with you GP he could give you a letter to support your need. If they feel it would have helped then ask for a referral. Tell the soc servs you are willing to go for counselling at the time it wasn't offered.
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Suzie, FRG Adviser
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby Suzie, FRG Adviser » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:19 am

Dear TheMA

The dates and most recent episode of depression will be viewed as significant factors as will the fact that you may be ambivalent about the Local Authority concerns. In relation to the last point, they will want to know that you could act as a protective factor, and make safe decisions whatever happens when the majority of professional support has been withdrawn.

In addition, your commitment to work with professionals both in the past and in the future, and willingness to seek support for yourself and your grandchild as appropriate, will also be taken into account.

Furthermore, normally the children's views (as far as it is possible to obtain these appropriate to their age) and the fact that they are already in a stable placement may be key issues for the court in any decision making process.

I hope this answers your queries.

Best Wishes

Suzie

TheMA
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby TheMA » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:14 pm

Hi all,

Soooo.... I managed to get my GP to elaborate on my history and this has satisfied the Guardian that there is no concern surrounding my mental health.

So... Now the LA (who are still not supporting me) are now having to submit to court a transition plan.

Can you please just give me a little advice as to what this may entail, how long this phase may go on for etc?

Any info would be great.

thanks again

TheMA

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby Suzie, FRG Adviser » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:57 am

Dear TheMA,

I am glad that the guardian has taken on board the medical report that you received from your GP.

I am not sure what “transition plan” might be in your case. However, I am guessing that the court is asking the local authority to come up with a plan including any support that they will provide to help your nieces move from the short term foster care placement they are in to a new home with you or other person.

Until the court makes a final decision about where your nieces will be living long term-there will be different possible plans for them which will run in parallel.

So this might be the following:

• Back to the parents
• Any assessed connected persons (friend or family) such as you
• Long term foster care
• adoption.

Can you ask the guardian or children’s services what the court means by transition plan? If it is about a transition to you, then you need to be consulted about the plan as you will need to think about your current arrangements-such as with work and your home and what support or help you would need for your nieces to come to you.

Best wishes,
Suzie

TheMA
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby TheMA » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:09 pm

Thanks Suzie, I have now had their proposed plan (I dont think they have thought very well about the logistics and are proposing the children start to visit then over nights on the very next working day following the Final Hearing... I currently work full time and will need to give and work notice, they did not discuss this with me ahead of filing this plan.

I am representing myself in court and know I will be cross examining the witnesses in this case.

I am really at a loss as to what I will need to be asking of who.

Is there anywhere that I could turn to get some advice on this area that you may know of?

Thanks in advance

TheMA

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby TheMA » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:48 pm

Hi all,

As an update, we went to final hearing in July and got no where as one of the children's putative fathers rocked up and threw a spanner in the hearing - Fortunely this also gave me ample time in which to undergo a psychiatric assessment as well as the LA time to submit an addendum to the SGO assessment.

Following a positive psychiatric report the addendum is now in favour of placing the girls with me under an SGO (finally!!). I am a litigant in these proceedings and throughout i have been writing statements and evidence based on the LA being against me, now that they have turned this corner, im not so sure what i should be angling my final evidence towards.

Any advice?

Thanks

TheMA

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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby Suzie, FRG Adviser » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:01 pm

Dear TheMA

Thank you for the update. I am pleased to see that things have changed in your favour.

I do not think you have to worry too much about what you said in the past about the Local Authority. At the time you were speaking from a position where they were not supporting you. The Local Authority have now considered the situation further in light of the psychiatric report and are now supportive.

Your final evidence really only need to acknowledge that the Local Authority are now supporting you and you are happy with that as you will be able to care for the children as you always wanted. You need to concentrate on working with the local authority and ensure that you are involved in the plans being made for the children if the court decide that they should live with you. One thing you will need to make sure of is that there is a support package for the children including financial support. If the children are likely to have long term needs for therapy ask for this to be included in any package. You may also want to ask for the support package to continue to age 18 for the children.

I have included a copy of our advice sheet about the support a family and friends carers can expect to receive from the local authority.

If you are being supported as long term carer I do not think it is necessary for you to write long statements about the local authority at this stage.

Very best of luck for the final hearing.

Best wishes

Suzie

TheMA
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Re: contesting a failed assessment

Postby TheMA » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:32 am

Thanks Suzie, I really appreciate all the advise you and your members have provided :D

There is also a suggestion that there is a supervision order alongside the SGO, I have looked into this order a little but would like to know what this actually entails and how much involvement with SS this will require?

For example, monthly/weekly meetings/reviews?

I will want to get the girls into a firm routine as quickly as possible and ensure they start to live a normal life instead of being pulled in all directions and hope that any meetings/reviews will be minimal.

Thanks

TheMA


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