SGO
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:33 pm
Hi,
I am currently looking after 2 of my sisters children under a CAO.
They were "placed" with various family members back in September 2015 by my sister because the LA were about to remove them under an EPO but didn't, therefore are not LAC.
Due to SS not allocating a new SW for 4months (the original one left the day the EPO was granted), It took the LA 5 months to file care proceedings, we were all given an Interim CAO at the first hearing and we are still in court to try and get a SGO.
I really feel for all the children (there are 7 involved in total, spread over 4 carers). They still have no "secure" placement for a year now.
I think its disgraceful that this has gone on for so long now but there seems to be nothing we can do, the Judge had to give a long list of extensions at the last hearing, including an extension to the 26week time limit.
The LA/SS are utterly useless, I know I shouldn't but I tell them how useless they are everytime they visit and they agree! The children also ask them why they visit because all they do is waste their play time and when they are going to leave them alone. It is a sad situation really.
On our last CHIN visit from them (with number 8 social worker, since Sept 2015) we discussed the huge list of therapy that has been recommended by the phycologist. It ended with the SW telling me that I will likely end up having to pay for it, because the LA plan on abandoning us a couple of months after SGO has been granted. Yes, the SW's exact words were "You may end up with the invoice for the therapy when we close the case"
Hopefully, we will also get a Family Assistance Order or similar to ensure the LA pay for the therapy the children require if CAMHS do not offer the services needed.
Anyway I do have some questions.
Can the SGO's be granted before the FH? for the children I am caring for there is noone contesting their placement, Mother is too ill to make decisions and Father has ruled himself out because of other children etc. I believe the FH is predominetly about contact with parents and allegations the children have made against them. We haven't even had a Issues Resolution Hearing yet!
I was assessed for SGO allowance 2 months ago and should get the full allowance of £168/week/child. Can this be backdated to i) when the children were placed with carers by mother ii) when CAO was granted iii) when the 26 week time limit should of been reached when the EPO was about to be served iiii) when the 26 week time limit was reached after the LA filed.
I ask because I do really need the financial support and there isn't any end in sight. I need to move into rented accomodation and have no deposit and no furniture. I have asked the SW if the LA can help and they have basically said "In theory yes, In reality no the financial panel will laugh at us". We have also been told there is no more discretionary payments that will be made, £200 was the limit
Sorry if this went on abit of a rant but I am amazed at how incompetent the people are that are meant to do things that are "in the best interests of the children"!
Thanks
I am currently looking after 2 of my sisters children under a CAO.
They were "placed" with various family members back in September 2015 by my sister because the LA were about to remove them under an EPO but didn't, therefore are not LAC.
Due to SS not allocating a new SW for 4months (the original one left the day the EPO was granted), It took the LA 5 months to file care proceedings, we were all given an Interim CAO at the first hearing and we are still in court to try and get a SGO.
I really feel for all the children (there are 7 involved in total, spread over 4 carers). They still have no "secure" placement for a year now.
I think its disgraceful that this has gone on for so long now but there seems to be nothing we can do, the Judge had to give a long list of extensions at the last hearing, including an extension to the 26week time limit.
The LA/SS are utterly useless, I know I shouldn't but I tell them how useless they are everytime they visit and they agree! The children also ask them why they visit because all they do is waste their play time and when they are going to leave them alone. It is a sad situation really.
On our last CHIN visit from them (with number 8 social worker, since Sept 2015) we discussed the huge list of therapy that has been recommended by the phycologist. It ended with the SW telling me that I will likely end up having to pay for it, because the LA plan on abandoning us a couple of months after SGO has been granted. Yes, the SW's exact words were "You may end up with the invoice for the therapy when we close the case"
Hopefully, we will also get a Family Assistance Order or similar to ensure the LA pay for the therapy the children require if CAMHS do not offer the services needed.
Anyway I do have some questions.
Can the SGO's be granted before the FH? for the children I am caring for there is noone contesting their placement, Mother is too ill to make decisions and Father has ruled himself out because of other children etc. I believe the FH is predominetly about contact with parents and allegations the children have made against them. We haven't even had a Issues Resolution Hearing yet!
I was assessed for SGO allowance 2 months ago and should get the full allowance of £168/week/child. Can this be backdated to i) when the children were placed with carers by mother ii) when CAO was granted iii) when the 26 week time limit should of been reached when the EPO was about to be served iiii) when the 26 week time limit was reached after the LA filed.
I ask because I do really need the financial support and there isn't any end in sight. I need to move into rented accomodation and have no deposit and no furniture. I have asked the SW if the LA can help and they have basically said "In theory yes, In reality no the financial panel will laugh at us". We have also been told there is no more discretionary payments that will be made, £200 was the limit
Sorry if this went on abit of a rant but I am amazed at how incompetent the people are that are meant to do things that are "in the best interests of the children"!
Thanks